The last step was to swap out the trigger pin safety spring form the original 1. Color coded 1911 hammer spring kit for complete trigger job. Both do quick work and cheaper than replacing parts. The elements of a trigger job on an m1911 pistol sight m1911. Ill finish it up and add to this album at some point in the near future. Joined aug 17, 2011 messages 297 likes 7 location s. He would probably jump at the chance to do a trigger job on your ruger. I just did a tune up on several of my 1911s that included polishing the. I know it can be adjusted but if done so too much can raise issues with the safety.
Shave off some steel from the edges of the main spring,starting from the bottom 2 from each side finishing to nothing at the top. The trigger guy specializes in custom trigger jobs. The stage involved retreating to cover and shooting from the side of a barrel. Trigger not resetting after trigger job discussion in 1911 gunsmithing started by haris1, may 15, 2016. What needs to be changed over travel, trigger has too much over travel from the point the sear breaks. After radiusing the sear, cutting the secondary and polishing the hammer hooks. I do think that smoothing out the trigger pull and possibly reducing the overtravel just eliminate the problem. Regardless of whether you do the work yourself or have a gunsmith do the work, always go to the range and test the pistol carefully after a trigger job. Ive always heard you can get a good trigger job with series 80 fp block parts.
Many owners find the trigger pull on the p11p40 keltec pistols both heavy and creepy. Without having to push the trigger pin safety, the trigger pull was at only 2 pounds. I got a howa 1500 in 270 and the trigger has tons of creep and is slightly heavy. The soft core of case hardened parts will not stand up to a trigger job. I was going to complete it before i posted, but its my cakeday and im a karma whore. Simply replacing the trigger doesnt do a damned thing to address those areas of a trigger pull.
The sear is stoned to a new angle and a lighter trigger spring is supplied. But only a custom trigger job by an expert will give you a perfect trigger because they match the parts to the specific tolerances in your gun. I have heard that the smith at quinbys near you is good, but it is something like 36 months last time i asked. Here i follow nic taylors guide to tuning up my 1911 for a lower trigger pull weight. Stock howa 1500 trigger job guns, loads, optics and gear. Most overthecounter 1911s still need some attention from a qualified handfitter pistolsmith. Due to the searless nature of the firing system and the hammer spring design, you cant lighten spring weight or smooth the hammersear as you would in many pistols. Oct 01, 2010 there is a whole lot to a 1911 trigger job. Jun 17, 2014 the grinding lowers the creep significantly, and lowers the trigger weight also. Glocks one size fits all approach to their guns does not fit everyones hands.
Please read our disclaimer since this can damage your gun. For my commander project, i plan to get the ed brown sear jig to do the trigger job. This helped a bunch, but the letoff is still a little to stiff. Hes a competitive shooter and creates awesome 1911 videos. To try to stone this type of part will remove the hard surface and leave the soft core exposed. What is most important with any trigger job is that you. The trigger, sear, hammer and disconector are the same as youd find in a series 70. But do use a gunsmith known for doing excellent 1911 trigger jobs. Create a logon job trigger that a job trigger that can start a scheduled job whenever the user jdoe logs onto the computer. Apr 10, 20 story time with jerry miculek the worthless 1911 guide rod and being tacticool duration. I just did a tune up on several of my 1911s that included polishing the moving parts. A professional trigger pull without the work readytodropin parts put an ultrasmooth, clean breaking, professional quality trigger job in your 1911 auto in only minutes. Handguns that i build for carry, duty or defensive work have a 4 to 4.
Stock howa 1500 trigger job posted in guns, loads, optics and gear for varmint hunting. Using this method you can get trigger pulls that are lighter than 2. I dont want to permintaly modify this rifle because it is mint and shoots great of bags but the trinner pull is hurting my shooting when standing or prone off my elbows. Get at least two since you might mess the first one up. At a recent idpa match, i saw a disqualification which illustrated a much debated issue about trigger jobs on m1911 pistols. I cant say it is a smooth trigger it just gets to 2. In order to get the actual benefit of a different trigger in a no. Whats it like to do a trigger job on a 1911 using a power custom stoning fixture. Anyone know of any gunsmiths within driving distance from berks with the expertise needed to perform a safe 2 lb. I hear many people say they are using ceramic stones for their hammer and sear. Second, i have 1x1x6 fine and medium india stones from brownells. See what its all about by viewing this firstperson movie shot with eyecords neoteric ninja. Dec 20, 2015 here i follow nic taylors guide to tuning up my 1911 for a lower trigger pull weight. Ive done trigger jobs on a bunch of other handguns and rifles, but this will be the first time for a 1911, and its always nice to read about it first, although i can learn as i go if necessary.
This includes polishing the sear and hammer engagement surfaces, clipping coils from or replacing the hammer spring, etc. Dec 12, 2015 trigger pull on the black label is now as nice as anything ive experienced on any fullsize 1911. Poor mans trigger job for use on pistols with stock hammer hooks of. If you like your little brownie and are searching for a worthwhile upgrade while waiting for someone to get stock on new grips, i cant recommend enough. I think that the ct380 would benefit from the same polishing operation that is commonly done to glocks, i. I started with a trigger pull of 5 lbs and just doing the following i dropped it down to 4. Id like to be able to do it without filing the trigger for safety fit. We use the factory parts in most cases and can dial in the smoothness and trigger pull weight to your specifications. Greg is a competitive shooter and probably has been doing work on 1911s a mainstay to the bullseye folks for many years. Trigger pull and the truth about sears trigger pull, as you may know, is a troublesome issue on the 1911, and coupled with the military need to have the pull weight at five pounds makes it even more so. Have worked the sear 1500 times with a gloved thumb between the frame and hammer. You assume all responsibility if you try this yourself. Smooth, perfectly weighted and the break is clean and sharp glasslike to use the cliche.
The pull can be excessive if the sear spring part of the trigger spring is too heavy or the sear engagement angles are wrong or the trigger return spring part of the trigger spring is too heavy. Don is a straight shooter and wont mess you around. I know of many smiths in other parts of the country id trust to do the work, but id rather not have to ship the gun out for the work. There must be enough trigger overtravel to insure the firing pin is fully released before the sear releases the hammer. There are four areas of concern with a trigger job. The creep is a function of the sear engagement and the over travel is an adjustment in the trigger itself. My local gunsmith has given me an offer for the following parts. A good trigger job also does not go away with usage, either. Its got a real stiff trigger on it, had it measured with a cheaper quality gauge and it was off the charts. A shooter using a customized m1911 got a stovepipe on his first shot from behind cover. For one, i dont like the straight style trigger and will replace it with a curved skeletonized one, figure while im in there i might as well get to polishing. Well, i think i have cured the problem but first lets examine what we know and then get to the solution. May 27, 2011 whats it like to do a trigger job on a 1911 using a power custom stoning fixture. The older colt gold cups used a wide, steel trigger that was very heavy, compared to a standard trigger, and a small preload spring was imposed between the sear and trigger to keep a little more forward tension on the trigger.
Fully prepared hammer and preground, prepolished sear, plus springs and fullymachined disconnector, will install into most models of 1911 autos with little or no fitting. Story time with jerry miculek the worthless 1911 guide rod and being tacticool duration. Liquid trigger job 1911 i have heard that there is something called a liquid trigger job, whereby i could take apart the trigger assembly forgive me if i call these parts by the wrong names, i got a taste of weaponry in the army 8 yrs, and now i learn through trial, error, and sometimes destruction and then lube certain parts, freshening. Create a job trigger that can start a scheduled job every monday and every friday.
Holding the trigger back while loading an m1911 pistol. Like mentioned above, there is more than one part to the trigger job, sear, hammar, trigger, spring, pins, flat sping and main spring, main spring plunger, disconnect dispite what many think you can get a good trigger with an 80 pistol. We also do generalized gunsmithing services including repairs, modifications, total gun transformations, installing sights, scope mounting and cleaning services. This is the best trigger ive done and it was so simple. Feb, 2012 the winchesterbrowning bpcrs come with about a 5 pound trigger pull which i found too heavy. Often there is a good 316 overtravel once the trigger does break.
This is a perfect example of why i bought my own tools to do trigger work and other work on 1911 s. Trigger pull and the truth about sears061711b karl lippard. It is a 1903a3 and fortunately, had the rear sight dovetail intact. Tom givens, owner of range master in memphis, tennessee, its lead instructor and 1911 aficionado, recently proclaimed, the 1911 design does not lend itself well to modern manufacturing methods. Changing or polishing the trigger bow does very little toward lightening the trigger pull, but it may remove some slop in the trigger. I have completed my project bringing a sporter back to original more or less configuration. This text assumes that the trigger group is mechanically sound, and that hammer hook and sear angles are correct and in agreement. What is the best way to do a trigger job on an n frame. The gauge out went to 12 lbs, so a friend of mine is guessing its around 15 lbs. Detail stripping the pistol was a pain because of the spring and the little clip that retained it.